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    Phoenix setup

    what is a good set up for Phoenix? i can not get the car to not spin out.

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    This is my Phoenix setup.. I run 26.90-27.20 consistently

    Track:Phoenix
    Assists Used:none
    Controller/Wheel:controller
    Online/Offlinenline

    Tires:


    Front Left:
    Cold Pressure:12.0
    Camber:4.5
    Caster:4.8

    Front Right:
    Cold Pressure:24.0
    Camber:-2.0
    Caster:2.5


    Rear Left:
    Pressure:12
    Camber:1.8

    Rear Right:
    Pressure:24.0
    Camber:-1.8


    Front Toe Adjustments:
    Front Toe-In:-1/4

    Rear Toe Adjustments:
    Left Rear Toe In:-1/4
    Right Rear Toe In:-1/4

    Suspension:

    Front Left:
    Ride Height:6.0
    Bump:23
    Rebound:24
    Spring:470

    Front Right:
    Ride Height:5.8
    Bump:25
    Rebound:25
    Spring:1000.0


    Rear Left:
    Ride Height:9.5
    Bump:11.0
    Rebound:15.0
    Spring:290.0
    Trackbar:5.1
    Rubber:no

    Rear Right:
    Ride Height:10.0
    Bump:11.0
    Rebound:17.0
    Spring:490.0
    Track Bar:5.1
    Rubber:no


    Drivetrain and Aero:
    Gearing:Type A

    Brakes:
    Bias:50 (i run 48)

    Steering:
    Steering Lock:14

    Aerodynamics:
    Tape:100.0
    Front Splitter:4.5


    Balance:
    Wedge & Bias:
    Front Bias:52.0
    Left Bias:52.0
    Wedge:46.7

    Front & Rear Sway Bar:
    Front:2900.0
    Rear: 0

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    hey if you guys are on a league can you be on more then one if they dont affect one an other

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    Track: Pheonix
    Wedge & Bias Front & Rear Sway Bar
    Front Bias: 50.0 Front:2000
    Left Bias : 52.0 Rear:0
    Wedge : 45.7 (do not adjust on this screen, use rideheights)
    Drivetrain & Aero
    Gear Type: A BrakeBias:52
    SteeringLock:14 Grill Tape:100%
    Front Splitter:4.5 65%Race
    Suspension
    FrontLeft: Front Right:
    Ride Height:5.7 RideHeight:5.5
    Bump:25 Bump:26
    Rebound:25 Rebound:28
    Spring: 570 Spring:750
    Rear Left: Rear Right:
    Ride Height:7.5 RideHeight:8.0
    Bump:12 Bump:14
    Rebound:17 Rebound:19
    Spring:320 Spring: 550
    Trackbar: 5.1 Trackbar:5.1
    Rubber:NO Rubber:YES


    Tires
    Front Left: Front Right:
    Pressure:13 Pressure:17
    Camber:4.5 Camber:-2.0
    Caster:4.8 Caster:2.5
    Rear Left: Right Rear:
    Pressure:13 Pressure:18
    Camber:1.8 Camber:-1.8
    Front Toe Adjustment Rear Toe Adjustment:
    Front Toe-in:-1/4 L Rear Toe-in:-1/4
    RRear Toe-in: -1/4
    This should be better you, just stay in the groove. Very important to let the car rotate the center before you go to the throttle. I was running 26.57's with no problem in practice. Usually will qualify in the low 26.40's

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    Phoenix setup

    Bass I tried your setup but can only run low 27s. It's got a good feel to it maybe it's just my line

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    Its a very line sensitive setup I'm running low in 1-2 cutting the dogleg and low 3-4. Play with the brakes that may help u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basskicker14 View Post
    Track: Pheonix
    Wedge & Bias Front & Rear Sway Bar
    Front Bias: 50.0 Front:2000
    Left Bias : 52.0 Rear:0
    Wedge : 45.7 (do not adjust on this screen, use rideheights)
    Drivetrain & Aero
    Gear Type: A BrakeBias:52
    SteeringLock:14 Grill Tape:100%
    Front Splitter:4.5 65%Race
    Suspension
    FrontLeft: Front Right:
    Ride Height:5.7 RideHeight:5.5
    Bump:25 Bump:26
    Rebound:25 Rebound:28
    Spring: 570 Spring:750
    Rear Left: Rear Right:
    Ride Height:7.5 RideHeight:8.0
    Bump:12 Bump:14
    Rebound:17 Rebound:19
    Spring:320 Spring: 550
    Trackbar: 5.1 Trackbar:5.1
    Rubber:NO Rubber:YES


    Tires
    Front Left: Front Right:
    Pressure:13 Pressure:17
    Camber:4.5 Camber:-2.0
    Caster:4.8 Caster:2.5
    Rear Left: Right Rear:
    Pressure:13 Pressure:18
    Camber:1.8 Camber:-1.8
    Front Toe Adjustment Rear Toe Adjustment:
    Front Toe-in:-1/4 L Rear Toe-in:-1/4
    RRear Toe-in: -1/4
    This should be better you, just stay in the groove. Very important to let the car rotate the center before you go to the throttle. I was running 26.57's with no problem in practice. Usually will qualify in the low 26.40's
    this thing drives like a charm. thank you soo much

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    One thing I've found for a qualifying setup for something, is to just take a preset race setup, and just lower the ride heights a bit. My friend and I where testing there yesterday, and we where able to get into the low 27's-high 26's.
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    hey basscan you change your print color.. it was red now its like blackon black cant read your post or is theresometing I can do on my end.. ty for your setups they work well

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    Thank you Bass, I'll for sure try it out. I'm in a league and thought I had a great setup but was wrong. Hopefully next time around I can do something with these guys.

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    Tried the setup for myself. You weren't kidding when you said it was fast. One thing though: The car seems really loose, almostundrivable to me, in the center of the corner where I'm not braking and not on the gas. Got anything to help tighten that up a bit?
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    Try adding front right air pressure or add to the front sway bar to tighten her up

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    Even rf with rr and usually work 50 at a time on the sway

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    Bumped mine up to about 40-50, and it made it a lot better in the turns. Thanks for the tip, definitely helped.
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    Phoenix setup

    You can lower the rf tire pressure a good bit and it'll tighten her up and also remover rr spring rubber or add left rubber besides raising wedge or lowering track bar
    Last edited by Reaper; 03-04-2013 at 04:09 PM.

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    Phoenix setup

    I run 13 left side 25 rf 15 rr add rr rubber and lower wedge to 35 and it runs pretty fast. Sorry for double post. My league only allows pit changes so I can't mess with the other stuff. Fastest lap was 26.50. I run a wheel
    Last edited by Reaper; 03-04-2013 at 04:14 PM.

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    Very good setup

    Some things u should try on the front end LF AT 5.5 AND 350 SPRING RF RIDE HEIGHT at 6.1 and a 500-600 spring

    12 psi on the lefts and 14psi on the right side

    u may have to take that spring rubber out. and play with rear springs again. To tighten up the rear a bit.

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    Phoenix setup

    My league only allows pit rd adjustments. Any advice. I'm running 12 on left 20 or bot rights and wedge at 34

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    Basskicker, I want to say thanks for that setup. Drives like a charm. Went from mid 27s, to high 26s.

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    what is a good set up for Phoenix? i can not get the car to not spin out.



    A good tip I learned about Phoenix, is if your car is loose, raise the left front and left rear ride heights. Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go Fast311 View Post
    what is a good set up for Phoenix? i can not get the car to not spin out.



    A good tip I learned about Phoenix, is if your car is loose, raise the left front and left rear ride heights. Hope this helps
    Use basskicker's setup, and add a rear rubber.

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    Thanks Basskicker14 and serious011 ! I combined your advice and lowered the rebound slightly and managed to hit a 26.98! I'm sure that's not the best lap you all have seen, but it's a major improvement from my high 27's!

    One thing, does it matter if I adjust the rebound instead of the bump or spring? Or if I adjust one, I don't need to adjust the other?

    Also, I still find it tough to accelerate out of corners.. if I hit the gas too soon the back end always spins out on me.. does it just boil down to learning when to brake and gas in the corners at PHOENIX? or is there an adjustment that might help me blast out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marksmen006 View Post
    Thanks Basskicker14 and serious011 ! I combined your advice and lowered the rebound slightly and managed to hit a 26.98! I'm sure that's not the best lap you all have seen, but it's a major improvement from my high 27's!

    One thing, does it matter if I adjust the rebound instead of the bump or spring? Or if I adjust one, I don't need to adjust the other?

    Also, I still find it tough to accelerate out of corners.. if I hit the gas too soon the back end always spins out on me.. does it just boil down to learning when to brake and gas in the corners at PHOENIX? or is there an adjustment that might help me blast out?
    Lower your LR tire pressure unless you are already at 12. If so add a LR spring rubber, or increase LR spring rate. You can also try raising your LF tire pressure as a last resort. Another thing that can cause "Snappy Loose" on exit is a large spring split on the Rear. The larger the difference in spring rates between your left rear and right rear the more "snappy loose" it will be once the tires get warn.

    On another note, I really like Stearman88's setup for Xbox. Its very consistent. I only needed to raise the LF tire pressure and lower the front swaybar and it runs some the most consistent laps I have seen yet. Good for long runs, since I run 100% race length.

    The thing to remember is at Any Track that requires a lot of brake you want to run more nose weight to keep the weight transfer down when braking (51.5-52%). Then you can start out at 52-54% BRAKE BIAS and work it down to 50% as the run continues.
    Last edited by Michael Watts; 08-17-2013 at 09:13 PM.
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